Population collapse due to low birth rates is a much greater risk to civilisation than global warming, warned Tesla and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk. He said that if people stop having children, civilisation will collapse. And is our country's conservative family policy the solution to this global problem? That is the question.

István Gulyás's guests:

- Tünde Fűrész, President, Kopp Mária Institute for Population and Families (KINCS)
- Gergely Kitta, Head of Strategy and Communication, Climate Policy Institute
- André Palóc, Policy Analyst, Századvég
- Balázs Stumpf-Biró Collapse Researcher

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